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At least some comments are not relevant as most of those commenting
so far helper haven't helped in administration of the current system
at all, so there was no real basis for comparison.<br>
<br>
From my point of view, the tracker on github is really basic and the
weak point that I gave up on trying to figure out if worth migrate
to it some time ago. I am not very happy with flyspray either, but
works fair enough not to consider a migration when I have no time to
do it myself. Anyhow, I did review other bugtracker systems, and all
of them have inconveniences.<br>
<br>
Then, lately github started to get lot of problems, maybe because it
became too loaded.<br>
<br>
Over the time, I learned/worked with two other 'cloud' hosting
services, berlios and sourceforge. And I have to say that from time
to time they did upgrades of the portals or underlying
infrastructure, so one has to spend time in coversions or learning
the new systems.<br>
<br>
The main issue is again: who is going to do the work and do that for
long time. Like with restructuring of the code, there were voices
for it, with proposals to write and send scripts for automatization,
but that didn't happen so far. I don't think the restructuring of
the code will happen for the next release, soon we will have to
freeze the development.<br>
<br>
It is not that I am agaist github or other 'cloud' portal, at the
end git is distrubuted system by design, so we can have it in many
places. It is about who is doing the work and administration in long
term. If we get a group of people committed to do it, we can have a
middle way for a while. Have a clone on github that you syncronyze
back and forth with current repository and see what people prefer to
use over the time, then we can decide which is the main repo and
eventually keep the other as backup.<br>
<br>
Obviously, controlling the system completely is a big benefit, but
if proves that using a hosted one is better and reliable, then we
can make a decision. But I would avoid asking and following just a
blind vote from people that won't get into doing the actual work,
for a thing that is not critical now.<br>
<br>
To summarize the way forward from my point of view:<br>
- there has to be a gourp of 3-5 people willing to use github and
ready to maintain that as a clone for a while and syncronyze in both
ways<br>
- try to advertise the benefits to convice more developers to use
that portal for source code development<br>
- let at least several months to go on to see the evolution (some
people might try and then return), then ask for a decision<br>
<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Daniel<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/30/13 2:28 PM, Alexandr S.
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8/30/2013 2:23 PM, Carlos Ruiz Díaz wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">+1 for GitHub too</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 4:27 AM,
Richard Brady <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<div>+1 for GitHub </div>
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On 29 Aug 2013, at 17:58, Peter Dunkley <<a
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<div dir="ltr">The advantages of concentration
are lower costs and richer feature set. I am
sure the time of the Kamailio developers is
better spent on Kamailio than running a
tracker, repo, and so on that still won't be
as good as the concentrated one.
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<div>If I was setting up an open-source
project today I certainly wouldn't run the
repo, tracker, etc myself - it just wouldn't
make sense. Even if GitHub became evil in
the future I could move.<br>
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<div>I think it makes sense for any project to
review these kind of logistics from time to
time as we are in a rapidly changing world,
and given that there was some discussion
about code re-structuring before the next
major release a few months back, now would
seem a logical time to give it some thought.</div>
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<div>I am quite happy with the status-quo if
no-one wants to change but do think this
merits some consideration to make sure we
aren't missing out on something that could
help us.</div>
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<div> Regards,</div>
<div><br>
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<div>Peter</div>
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09:41, Olle E. Johansson <span dir="ltr"><<a
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<div>29 aug 2013 kl. 18:29 skrev Peter
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<ul>
<li>The GitHub concept of
forking would make
individual developers
branches easier to manage.</li>
<li>The GitHub concept of
forking and push-requests
would make it easier for
people who are not core
developers to submit
patches and for the core
developers to review them
and apply them.</li>
<li>People have been
complaining about flyspray
for a while and the GitHub
tracker is nicely
integrated into the
repository making it easy
to relate issues to code
and patches.</li>
<li>The GitHub web-UI means
that the code is easier to
browse, inspect, view
history (and relate
changes to issues) than
the "default" Git one that
is in use at the moment.<br>
</li>
<li>There would be no need
for anyone to spend time
or money
maintaining/patching/fixing
the SIP Router Git repo
and flyspray.</li>
<li>Someone else is handling
backups and failure
recovery.</li>
<li>The use of markdown
means that documentation
and code can be presented
together in a nice way
with GitHub.</li>
</ul>
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<div>I am sure there are more
too (which is why so many
projects are on there now).</div>
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Apart from this, there's a massive
concentration of code and projects on
a single site. Sourceforge now is
rumoured to send malware with
downloads, what can happen to github
in the future? Is this concentration a
Good Thing (TM) ?</div>
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<div>The Internet is distributed.</div>
<div>/O
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<div>Peter</div>
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29 August 2013 08:49, Alex
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<div>Peter, <br>
<br>
What do you see to be
GitHub's virtues for
this project? <br>
<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hello,
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<div>There was
some talk
about
restructuring
the Kamailio
code (for
example,
putting the
core into an
"src/" or
"core/"
directory and
having an
"include/"
directory).</div>
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<div>Would
there be any
mileage in
considering a
move to GitHub
for the
repository at
the same time?</div>
<div><br>
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<div>Regards,</div>
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