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<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 11/4/05, <b class="gmail_sendername">Mark Aiken</b> <<a href="mailto:aiken.mark@gmail.com">aiken.mark@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span>
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<div>WM5.1 has been replaced by Office Communicator for which there is a per seat charge for use with LCS. WM5.1. Just look on the MS LCS site for details.</div>
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<div>Both WM5.1 and Office Communicator use the same protocol to prevent using SIP IM without LCS.</div>
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<div>If your looking for a rep to sell you some seats you should be able to find it via the LCS site. I can dig out some contact info from some old email archives if you really need it.<br> </div>
<div>Mark<br> </div>
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<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 11/3/05, <b class="gmail_sendername">Michael Kendall</b> <<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:michael@starmega.com" target="_blank">michael@starmega.com
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"><br>Mark,<br><br>I cannot tell you how much I appreciate your rare<br>and insightful comments about Windows Messenger (WM).
<br>Valuable warnings of this kind are understandably<br>difficult to find on the Microsoft Website,<br>or anywhere else for that matter.<br>The restrictions you describe are probably the reason<br>that WM gets so little mention on the serusers list.
<br><br>I visited the Microsoft website describing WM,<br>and all of the WM documents I find are dated 2001,<br>as if Microsoft has abandoned the WM product,<br>which I don't think is really the case.<br><br>The documents did not mention any plan
<br>for me to pay a fee for WM use,<br>with or without whiteboard and IM service.<br>The site makes WM appear 100% free.<br>Can you please direct me to a website or a phone number<br>where I can find out the amount and conditions
<br>of such WM charges?<br><br>During my startup phase, while I am evaluating the viability<br>of my tutoring business model,<br>it is probably acceptable for me to pay WM fees to Microsoft,<br>and to restrict myself to the uPnP routers required by WM.
<br>But over the longer term, both of those limitations will<br>present a serious problem, just as you have suggested.<br>Microsoft's failure to include STUN support in WM is<br>a serious error which limits its deployability.
<br><br>thanks for your help,<br><br>Michael<br><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Serusers mailing list<br><a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:Serusers@iptel.org" target="_blank">
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