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On <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http:/iptel.org/">http:/iptel.org/</a> it is fairly explicit that the projects are
open-source, but you are right, <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.iptel.org/ser">http://www.iptel.org/ser</a> didn't mention
it explicitly, which I have now corrected :-)<br>
Thanks,<br>
g-)<br>
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SIP wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Speaking of which, with the name 'OpenSER,' it's very easy for people to
get the misconception that SER is a closed project and OpenSER is the
open version of it. There ought to be some mention of 'open source' or
at least the word 'open' somewhere on the SER project's main page (if
there is, I didn't see it on cursory glance, so someone might need to
re-evaluate the verbage). That might help alleviate some people's
concerns about the overall nature of the SER project and how it's
developed.
With SER and OpenSER now becoming more and more divergent, and the
project names themselves being incredibly misleading, a good, simple
explanation of the nature of the SER project could go a long way.
N.
Greger V. Teigre wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Hi Miklos,
I believe all the mentioned are already nominated and found on the
overview page. As for balance between companies, I hope we can avoid
having a majority from a single commercial entity, as this can
reinforce the (false) impression that iptel.org is controlled by a
commercial entity. That being said, people are nominated (and I'm
pretty sure also receive votes) based on their personal track record
and all the currently nominated people have IMHO clearly showed their
dedication across employers.
g-)
Miklos Tirpak wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Hi *,
I would like to nominate Raphael Coeffic from SEMS development, Andrei
Pelinescu-Onciul and Jan Janak from SER development, Greger V. Teigre
and Martin Hoffmann from the boarder community.
Looking at the actual state of the election I am just afraid that the
result will not be so balanced between the companies, hopefully it will
not cause any problem. Anyway, we can add some more people to the board
later if there is a need for it.
Regards,
Miklos
On 05/24/2007 02:50 PM, Greger V. Teigre wrote:
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<pre wrap="">I suggest we focus on the technical board right now and pick up that
ball a bit later. Note also that it's iptel.org contributors and not
only SER contributors who are within the scope of nominations to the
technical board.
g-)
Jiri Kuthan wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Shall not we have another narrowly focused group for resolving interop
issues, ideally recruited on a wider basis than SER contributors?
-jiri
At 12:41 24/05/2007, Jiri Kuthan wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Personally I will constrain myself to three however difficult it
may be (in alphabetical order): Andrei for his long-lasting core
achievements and insights, Jan for his so-many-modules and DB-model
achievements and insights, and Hendrik for his modules and hands-on
operational experience. (Notwisthanding that, I really have a long
list of other individuals whom I consider technically fit for that,
Greger, Nils, Martin, Maxim, Miklos, ... actually the list would become
longer and longer, one just hast to make a call...)
-jiri
At 11:19 24/05/2007, Jan Janak wrote:
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<pre wrap="">I would like to nominate Stefan Sayer for SEMS, Jiri Kuthan and Andrei
Pelinescu for SER, and last, but not least, Greger Teigre and Hendrik
Scholz.
Jan.
Greger V. Teigre wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Ok, I'll keep track of nominations on a new page on iptel.org if and
when people accept the nominations.
Let me start:
I would like to nominate Jan Janak and Andrei Pelinescu-Onciul for the
two developer positions (both due to their central involvement across
SER), N. (<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:sip@arcdiv.com">sip@arcdiv.com</a>) as a user community representative (due to
long-time and valuable serusers activity), and Martin Hoffmann as a user
community representative (due to his strong SER credentials as book
auther, long-term developer and operator of service provider
installations).
As Raphael has already accepted his nomination as a SEMS
representative/developer, I only nominate four.
g-)
SIP wrote:
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<pre wrap="">You ought to stick up a page on the Iptel site somewhere to keep track
of who's been nominated perhaps, so people could reference it when
deciding their votes. Just an idea.
I nominate Greger to keep track of all of this voting nominating
stuff! Seconded? ;)
N.
Greger Viken Teigre wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Why should voting be secret? We strive openness and transparency in
decision processes by making decisions through consensus on the
mailing lists. I think secret voting should have a very clear
rationale in order to prefer it.
g-)
------- Original message -------
From: Martin Hoffmann <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:hn@nvnc.de"><hn@nvnc.de></a>
Cc: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:serusers@lists.iptel.org">serusers@lists.iptel.org</a>, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:serdev@lists.iptel.org">serdev@lists.iptel.org</a>, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:semsdev@iptel.org">semsdev@iptel.org</a>
Sent: 18.5.'07, 10:54
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<pre wrap="">Greger V. Teigre wrote:
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<pre wrap="">I have received private questions on how to nominate and vote. My
interpretation is that nobody has suggested that we nominate and
vote using another procedure than default in consensus building:
posting to the list.
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<pre wrap="">I think it is one main feature of all this voting business to be
secret.
Regards,
Martin
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