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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/28/12 6:09 PM, Jason Penton wrote:<br>
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      <p dir="ltr">No. We use solaris11.</p>
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    IIRC, solaris 11 was free for evaluation purposes, has that changed?<br>
    <br>
    BTW, since mainstream opensolaris was discontinued, anyone knows
    what is the best derivative (if that is at all)?<br>
    <br>
    Cheers,<br>
    Daniel<br>
    <br>
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cite="mid:CAE=KcrjJJT-esq65aoTTNJApPxTv9EPrFt9dzzzd9uUy_bpeFA@mail.gmail.com"
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      <p dir="ltr"> But yes on any hardware</p>
      <div class="gmail_quote">On Aug 28, 2012 5:56 PM,
        "Daniel-Constantin Mierla" &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
          href="mailto:miconda@gmail.com">miconda@gmail.com</a>&gt;
        wrote:<br type="attribution">
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          <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Hello,<br>
            <br>
            <div>On 8/28/12 10:33 AM, Jason Penton wrote:<br>
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            <blockquote type="cite">Hey Daniel,<br>
              <br>
              We use Solaris virtualisation and it works great. The
              zones (VMs per se) are lightweight, easy to administer and
              rock solid. <br>
              <br>
              btw, common misconceptions are that you need sun (oracle)
              hardware and that the os is not free. These are both
              false. <br>
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            so you use opensolaris, I guess, and then it can be any
            intel/amd arch server (e.g., dell, hp)?<br>
            <br>
            Cheers,<br>
            Daniel<br>
            <br>
            <blockquote type="cite"> <br>
              cheers<br>
              Jason<br>
              <br>
              <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 9:59 AM,
                Carsten Bock <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:carsten@ng-voice.com" target="_blank">carsten@ng-voice.com</a>&gt;</span>
                wrote:<br>
                <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
                  .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Hi
                  Daniel,<br>
                  <br>
                  here's from my personal experience:<br>
                  Our setup at ng-voice is a little weird sometimes:
                  We've rented some<br>
                  virtual servers at a german provider (who uses Xen).
                  On these virtual<br>
                  servers we've installed OpenVz, which for us is
                  absolutely great, if<br>
                  you are just working with Linux-Servers. While Xen is
                  a rather<br>
                  complete virtualization, OpenVz is lightweight and
                  comes in handy, if<br>
                  you just want to logically separate servers. We've got
                  each IMS<br>
                  component (P-/I-/S-CSCF, HSS, Application-Servers,
                  Databases) running<br>
                  on a dedicated OpenVz Container, which is really
                  great. We've even got<br>
                  a CentOs-Container running on a Debian OpenVz, which
                  is started<br>
                  "on-demand" in order to build RPM-Packages. With
                  OpenVz you can even<br>
                  move Containers from one host to another,
                  theoretically with zero<br>
                  downtime (doesn't work with SEMS, don't know about
                  other software).<br>
                  For our IMS-setup, we work with RTP-Relaying, which
                  works great within<br>
                  virtualization, i cannot complain.<br>
                  <br>
                  At another customer (a fibre provider in Germany),
                  we're running all<br>
                  the infrastructure on Xen-only. An infrastructure
                  provider takes care<br>
                  of the administration, but those servers run poorly
                  (RTP-Relaying is<br>
                  okay but everything else is really slow).<br>
                  <br>
                  Conclusion for me: VoIP on virtual servers can work
                  great, but the<br>
                  virtualization infrastructure needs to be administered
                  properly which<br>
                  may not be an easy task, if you are new in this
                  subject.<br>
                  <br>
                  Kind regards,<br>
                  Carsten<br>
                  <br>
                  2012/8/28 Daniel-Constantin Mierla &lt;<a
                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:miconda@gmail.com" target="_blank">miconda@gmail.com</a>&gt;:<br>
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                    <div>&gt; Hello,<br>
                      &gt;<br>
                      &gt; just asking to see your experience deploying
                      sip platforms on virtual<br>
                      &gt; systems. So far I was running Kamailio in
                      virtual machines and no problems,<br>
                      &gt; but I insisted that media servers to be on
                      physical machines. Lately is more<br>
                      &gt; pressure from the market to go everything
                      virtual.<br>
                      &gt;<br>
                      &gt; So the question is more about having
                      everything on virtual systems, proxy<br>
                      &gt; and media server, where the media server can
                      deal with transcoding,<br>
                      &gt; conference rooms and IVRs.<br>
                      &gt;<br>
                      &gt; Any strong comments pro or against?<br>
                      &gt;<br>
                      &gt; What is your preferred virtualization system
                      for such deployments?<br>
                      &gt;<br>
                      &gt; Cheers,<br>
                      &gt; Daniel<br>
                      &gt;<br>
                      &gt; --<br>
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                      &gt; Kamailio Advanced Training, Berlin, Nov 5-8,
                      2012 - <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="http://asipto.com/u/kat" target="_blank">http://asipto.com/u/kat</a><br>
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                      &gt;<br>
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                  --<br>
                  Carsten Bock<br>
                  CEO (Gesch&auml;ftsf&uuml;hrer)<br>
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Daniel-Constantin Mierla - <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.asipto.com" target="_blank">http://www.asipto.com</a>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://twitter.com/#%21/miconda" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/#!/miconda</a> - <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/miconda" target="_blank">http://www.linkedin.com/in/miconda</a>
Kamailio Advanced Training, Berlin, Nov 5-8, 2012 - <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://asipto.com/u/kat" target="_blank">http://asipto.com/u/kat</a></pre>
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Daniel-Constantin Mierla - <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.asipto.com">http://www.asipto.com</a>
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