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    Hello,<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/10/12 2:27 PM, Uri Shacked wrote:<br>
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        <div>thanks a lot.</div>
        <div>so as i undestand, the real_used_size is the right value to
          calculate size. but, it grows because of fragmentation data.</div>
        <div>in the core, what does it mean "It is effective if
          MEM_JOIN_FREE compile option is defined"</div>
        <div>is there something else i need to do except adding to the
          cfg the mem_join=1 ?<br>
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    no, iirc MEM_JOIN_FREE is enabled by default -- this is an option to
    turn the feature off at compile time. Let us know if the number of
    fragments is lower.<br>
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    Cheers,<br>
    Daniel<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 2:39 PM,
          Daniel-Constantin Mierla <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
              moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:miconda@gmail.com"
              target="_blank">miconda@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
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            <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Hello,
              <div class="im"><br>
                <br>
                <div>On 9/10/12 1:14 PM, Uri Shacked wrote:<br>
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                        class="MsoNormal"><span>Thanks,</span></p>
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                      <p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal"
                        class="MsoNormal"><span>The stuff i sent is from
                          my test server that has 3.3.1 installed.</span></p>
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                      <p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal"
                        class="MsoNormal"><span>On my prod servers i use
                          3.2.x.</span></p>
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                        class="MsoNormal"><span>how would you explain
                          that when kamailio starts (on prod with
                          similar data and same cfg) it take around 20%
                          of the shmem, after reload 30% and in time
                          (6-8 weeks) it gets up to 39% ?</span></p>
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              if used_size does not have variations, then it is no leak.
              The variations of real_used_size is from fragmentation
              management -- each fragment has a structure associated to
              it.<br>
              <br>
              Cheers,<br>
              Daniel
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                        <p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal"
                          class="MsoNormal"><span>I start with 4G of
                            shmem.</span></p>
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                          class="MsoNormal"><span>It feels like a leak
                            but i have trouble investigating it....
                            where would you look? The reload, the dialog
                            or the avp's?</span></p>
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                          class="MsoNormal"><span>BR,</span></p>
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                          class="MsoNormal"><span>Uri</span></p>
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                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at
                        11:06 AM, Daniel-Constantin Mierla <span
                          dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:miconda@gmail.com"
                            target="_blank">miconda@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                        wrote:<br>
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                          <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Hello,<br>
                            <br>
                            the used size is pretty much the same after
                            the reload, so doesn't look as leak. If you
                            do 2-3 reloads is shmem:used_size staying
                            around same value?<br>
                            <br>
                            It is clear boost in the fragments, I would
                            say that after start the number of fragments
                            is quite low, because it should contain the
                            good records in memory as well.<br>
                            <br>
                            Btw, the version 3.3.x has options for
                            defragmentation, see the core cookbook, you
                            can enable it.<br>
                            <br>
                            Cheers,<br>
                            Daniel
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                                <br>
                                <div>On 9/9/12 10:18 AM, Uri Shacked
                                  wrote:<br>
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                                        <div>Hi,</div>
                                        <div>&nbsp;</div>
                                        <div>here is the statistics
                                          after kamailio starts:</div>
                                        <div>&nbsp;</div>
                                        <div>shmem:fragments = 28<br>
                                          shmem:free_size = 3800871312<br>
                                          shmem:max_used_size =
                                          494132368<br>
                                          shmem:real_used_size =
                                          494095984<br>
                                          shmem:total_size = 4294967296<br>
                                          shmem:used_size = 342642072</div>
                                        <div>&nbsp;</div>
                                        <div>here it is after reload of
                                          the num table:</div>
                                        <div>&nbsp;</div>
                                        <div>shmem:fragments = 9161531<br>
                                          shmem:free_size = 3654274496<br>
                                          shmem:max_used_size =
                                          959885552<br>
                                          shmem:real_used_size =
                                          640692800<br>
                                          shmem:total_size = 4294967296<br>
                                          shmem:used_size = 342654552<br>
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                                        <div>here is the cfg part for
                                          mtree:</div>
                                        <div>&nbsp;</div>
                                        <div>#------- mtree params
                                          -------------<br>
                                          modparam("mtree", "db_url",
                                          CFGDB)<br>
                                          modparam("mtree", "mtree",
                                          "name=odr;dbtable=service_odr_view;type=0;")<br>
                                          modparam("mtree", "mtree",
                                          "name=oper;dbtable=service_oper_type;type=0;")<br>
                                          modparam("mtree", "mtree",
                                          "name=permis;dbtable=service_permisions_to_oper;type=0;")<br>
                                          modparam("mtree", "mtree",
                                          "name=num;dbtable=service_numbers_to_areas_view;type=0;")<br>
                                          modparam("mtree", "char_list",
                                          "0123456789")<br>
                                          modparam("mtree", "pv_value",
                                          "$avp(mtval)")<br>
                                          modparam("mtree", "pv_values",
                                          "$avp(mtvals)")</div>
                                        <div>&nbsp;</div>
                                        <div>here is the number of raws
                                          from the DB:</div>
                                        <div>&nbsp;</div>
                                        <div>SELECT count(*) FROM
                                          `service`.`service_numbers_to_areas_view`
                                          = 4195528</div>
                                        <div>&nbsp;</div>
                                        <div>and attached is the memory
                                          log.</div>
                                        <div>&nbsp;</div>
                                        <div>thanks,</div>
                                        <div>Uri</div>
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                                            <div><br>
                                              &nbsp;</div>
                                            <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                              Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 10:26
                                              AM, Daniel-Constantin
                                              Mierla <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:miconda@gmail.com" target="_blank">miconda@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
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                                                  Hello,<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  is this taken only
                                                  after startup? Get one
                                                  at startup and another
                                                  one after reload, so
                                                  it can be compared.<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  Cheers,<br>
                                                  Daniel
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                                                      <br>
                                                      <div>On 9/6/12
                                                        9:22 AM, Uri
                                                        Shacked wrote:<br>
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                                                          <div>Hi,</div>
                                                          <div>&nbsp;</div>
                                                          <div>here:</div>
                                                          <div>&nbsp;</div>
                                                          <div>shmem:fragments
                                                          = 143898</div>
                                                          <div>shmem:freesize
                                                          = 3446570952</div>
                                                          <div>shmem:max_used_size
                                                          = 861854768</div>
                                                          <div>shmem:real_used_size
                                                          = 848396344</div>
                                                          <div>shmem:total_size
                                                          = 4294967296</div>
                                                          <div>shmem:used_size
                                                          = 319676976</div>
                                                          <div><br>
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                                                          &nbsp;</div>
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                                                          class="gmail_quote">On

                                                          Thu, Sep 6,
                                                          2012 at 9:49
                                                          AM,
                                                          Daniel-Constantin
                                                          Mierla <span
                                                          dir="ltr">&lt;<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:miconda@gmail.com" target="_blank">miconda@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
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class="gmail_quote">Hello,
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                                                          <br>
                                                          On 9/5/12 3:06
                                                          PM, Uri
                                                          Shacked wrote:<br>
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class="gmail_quote"> Hi,<br>
                                                          I use MTREE to
                                                          load 5 million
                                                          rows from the
                                                          database. it
                                                          takes about 30
                                                          sec to start
                                                          kamailio and
                                                          it is running
                                                          great.<br>
                                                          Whern I check
                                                          the shmem
                                                          usage I see
                                                          the data take
                                                          about 0.8G out
                                                          of 4G i set on
                                                          shmem.<br>
                                                          When i reload
                                                          the data while
                                                          kamailio is
                                                          running, the
                                                          memory usage
                                                          rises to 1.3G
                                                          and stays
                                                          there (the
                                                          second and
                                                          next reloads
                                                          stays on 1.3G
                                                          as well).<br>
                                                          Why doesn't it
                                                          return to 0.8G
                                                          after the
                                                          reload is
                                                          completed?<br>
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                                                          can you send
                                                          the statistics
                                                          related to
                                                          shmem?<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          kamctl fifo
                                                          get_statistics
                                                          shmem:<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          There are
                                                          different
                                                          values there,
                                                          some usage
                                                          come from
                                                          overhead of
                                                          memory chunks
                                                          management.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Cheers,<br>
                                                          Daniel<span><font
color="#888888"><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          -- <br>
                                                          Daniel-Constantin

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