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    No, I meant when it is taken from dialog max lifetime value (so when
    the override_lifetime is not set).<br>
    <br>
    Looks like I need to dig in the code anyhow, I am not the author of
    the module to know by heart what is inside -- just need some spare
    time when I get to the office, not easy to set a testbed while
    traveling...<br>
    <br>
    Cheers,<br>
    Daniel<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 26/01/16 22:23, Phil Lavin wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">It does it when
            the value is taken from override_lifetime, if that’s what
            you mean. The override_lifetime value has been set
            sufficiently high such that a refresh is not required
            because calls on our platform cannot last more than 4 hours.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"
            style="line-height:13.2pt;background:white"><span
              style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Phil Lavin<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Telecoms
              Systems Manager<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                style="color:#86579E;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">CloudCall
                by SYNETY</span></b><span
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><br>
              </span></b><span
              style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">T: +44
              (0) 330 335 0000 / +1 617 982 1600<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">D: +44
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                  style="color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"
                  lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
                style="color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"
                lang="EN-US"> Daniel-Constantin Mierla
                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:miconda@gmail.com">mailto:miconda@gmail.com</a>]
                <br>
                <b>Sent:</b> 26 January 2016 21:08<br>
                <b>To:</b> Phil Lavin <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:phil.lavin@synety.com"><phil.lavin@synety.com></a>;
                Kamailio (SER) - Users Mailing List
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:sr-users@lists.sip-router.org"><sr-users@lists.sip-router.org></a><br>
                <b>Cc:</b> Telco Team <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:telco-team@synety.com"><telco-team@synety.com></a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [SR-Users] Strange PUA Behaviour<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">On 26/01/16 12:54, Phil Lavin wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Sorry,
              correction – desired expires is always 1 second LESS than
              expires.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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            Roman",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><br>
            Is this above happening when taking it from the dialog
            module value?<br>
            <br>
            Cheers,<br>
            Daniel<br>
            <br>
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Phil</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                    style="color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"
                    lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
                  style="color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"
                  lang="EN-US"> Phil Lavin
                  <br>
                  <b>Sent:</b> 26 January 2016 11:54<br>
                  <b>To:</b> '</span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:miconda@gmail.com"><span
                    style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-US">miconda@gmail.com</span></a><span
                  style="color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"
                  lang="EN-US">'
                </span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:miconda@gmail.com"><span
                    style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-US"><miconda@gmail.com></span></a><span
                  style="color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"
                  lang="EN-US">; Kamailio (SER) - Users Mailing List
                </span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:sr-users@lists.sip-router.org"><span
                    style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-US"><sr-users@lists.sip-router.org></span></a><span
                  style="color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"
                  lang="EN-US"><br>
                  <b>Cc:</b> Telco Team </span><a
                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:telco-team@synety.com"><span
                    style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-US"><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:telco-team@synety.com"><telco-team@synety.com></a></span></a><span
                  style="color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"
                  lang="EN-US"><br>
                  <b>Subject:</b> RE: [SR-Users] Strange PUA Behaviour</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Hi Daniel,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Not
              setting the lifetime does indeed take the expiry from the
              dialog but the mechanism that refreshes the expiry when
              the call is ongoing does not run unless max_expires time
              is less than the lifetime. This seems to be because of the
              below code in pua.c:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier
              New ;color:windowtext",serif">if((p->desired_expires>
              p->expires + min_expires) ||</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier
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               (p->desired_expires== 0 ))</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">The
              desired_expires value is always 1 second greater than the
              expires value unless you set max_expires to pull it down.
              This has the side effect that the presentity entries are
              cleaned up prematurely, however.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Setting
              lifetime to a high value negates the need for the
              refreshes to happen.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Cheers</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Phil</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                    style="color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"
                    lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
                  style="color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"
                  lang="EN-US"> Daniel-Constantin Mierla [</span><a
                  moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:miconda@gmail.com"><span
                    style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-US"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:miconda@gmail.com">mailto:miconda@gmail.com</a></span></a><span
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                  <b>Sent:</b> 26 January 2016 11:36<br>
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                  <b>Subject:</b> Re: [SR-Users] Strange PUA Behaviour</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Hello,<br>
            <br>
            thanks to tackling this further ... see my comments
            inline...<o:p></o:p></p>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal">On 26/01/16 11:46, Phil Lavin wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">We now have
                something of a resolution to this. Config is below. The
                key differences are:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoListParagraph"
              style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
                style="font-family:Symbol"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
                    style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">        
                  </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
                style="color:#1F497D">pua – db_mode set to 0. This stops
                multiple states for a single dialog (early, trying,
                confirmed and terminated) from showing in the presentity
                table. I suspect this is a bug?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          </blockquote>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt"><br>
              OK -- still in my todo to pursue this case.<br>
              <br>
              <br>
            </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                style="color:#1F497D">pua_dialoginfo – override_lifetime
                set to a value > 4 hours. 4 hours chosen because our
                platform terminates calls after 4 hours to stop
                incomplete calls from continuing forever. There does
                seem to be a mechanism to refresh the expiry time of
                presentity records but it is only called when the
                max_expires time is less than the override_lifetime.
                Doing that causes records to be prematurely cleaned up.
                I suspect a few different bugs here?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt"><br>
              IIRC, if you don't set:<br>
              <br>
              modparam("pua_dialoginfo", "override_lifetime", 14420)<br>
              <br>
              The value is taken from max dialog duration. Can you try
              without this parameter? The parameter should be used only
              if you want to overwrite the dialog module value.<br>
              <br>
              Cheers,<br>
              Daniel</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier
                New""># ----- presence params -----</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier
                New"">modparam("presence", "db_url", DBURL)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier
                New"">modparam("presence", "send_fast_notify", 0)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier
                New"">modparam("presence", "db_update_period", 20)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier
                New"">modparam("presence", "clean_period", 60)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier
                New"">modparam("presence", "max_expires", 14430)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier
                New""># ----- presence_xml params -----</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier
                New"">modparam("presence_xml", "db_url", DBURL)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier
                New"">modparam("presence_xml", "force_active", 1)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier
                New""># ----- presence_dialoginfo -----</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier
                New"">modparam("presence_dialoginfo",
                "force_single_dialog", 0)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier
                New"">modparam("presence_dialoginfo",
                "force_dummy_dialog", 1)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier
                New""># ----- pua params -----</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier
                New"">modparam("pua", "db_url", DBURL)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier
                New"">modparam("pua", "db_mode", 0)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier
                New"">modparam("pua", "update_period", 20)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier
                New"">modparam("pua", "dlginfo_increase_version",
                0)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier
                New"">modparam("pua", "reginfo_increase_version",
                0)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier
                New""># ----- pua_dialoginfo params -----</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier
                New"">modparam("pua_dialoginfo",
                "send_publish_flag", FLT_DLGINFO)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier
                New"">modparam("pua_dialoginfo",
                "override_lifetime", 14420)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier
                New"">modparam("pua_dialoginfo", "include_callid",
                1)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier
                New"">modparam("pua_dialoginfo",
                "caller_confirmed", 0)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Courier
                New"">modparam("pua_dialoginfo", "include_tags", 1)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                    <b>Sent:</b> 22 January 2016 13:19<br>
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                    <b>Subject:</b> RE: [SR-Users] Strange PUA Behaviour</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hi Daniel,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Any
                thoughts on this?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thanks</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                    <b>Subject:</b> RE: [SR-Users] Strange PUA Behaviour</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hi Daniel,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Sorry for
                the delay in replying. I’ve attached blf.cap which shows
                the “light stays on” scenario. You’ll see that the final
                NOTIFY (packet 43) is a “confirmed” rather than a
                “terminated” as per the PUBLISH  (packet 41) that
                triggered it.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I’ve also
                attached presentity.txt which is the contents of the DB
                before the pcap was taken.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">With
                regards to your question about the light going out after
                the entries in the table have expired, this does happen
                automatically. As soon as the table drops down to being
                empty (it takes a couple of minutes to fully clear), the
                light goes off. Subsequent calls will work correctly
                with BLF until it eventually stops working and the whole
                cycle repeats.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I have
                repeated the test with subs_db_mode 0 and the same
                results occur. This is, in fact, the state it was in
                when the attached pcap was taken.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Do you
                think the problem is in the cleanup of the data or in
                the way the active dialog is matched against the set of
                data in the table? Happy to prod through the code with
                gdb if you can point me in the direction of where to
                start looking.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Cheers</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
                  style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Phil</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                      style="color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"
                      lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
                    style="color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"
                    lang="EN-US"> Daniel-Constantin Mierla [</span><a
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                    href="mailto:miconda@gmail.com"><span
                      style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-US"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:miconda@gmail.com">mailto:miconda@gmail.com</a></span></a><span
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                    <br>
                    <b>Sent:</b> 19 January 2016 23:26<br>
                    <b>To:</b> Phil Lavin <</span><a
                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:phil.lavin@synety.com"><span
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                    style="color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"
                    lang="EN-US">>; Kamailio (SER) - Users Mailing
                    List <</span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:sr-users@lists.sip-router.org"><span
                      style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-US">sr-users@lists.sip-router.org</span></a><span
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                    <b>Subject:</b> Re: [SR-Users] Strange PUA Behaviour</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Can you
              get a pcap for a case with the new config? Being
              traveling, but maybe I get a chance to look at it soon.<br>
              <br>
              Reading quickly on some docs, I noticed that
              subs_db_mode=3 and notifier_proceses=0 rise a conflict:<br>
              <br>
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href="http://www.kamailio.org/docs/modules/devel/modules/presence.html#presence.p.notifier_processes">http://www.kamailio.org/docs/modules/devel/modules/presence.html#presence.p.notifier_processes</a><br>
              <br>
              Can you try with subs_db_mode=0 and see if works
              different?<br>
              <br>
              Cheers,<br>
              Daniel<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">On 19/01/16 20:35, Phil Lavin wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Just to
                  follow this up with more recent results. I’ve
                  simplified things and have been testing calling from a
                  Kamailio registered UA to a phone on the PSTN. There’s
                  only 1 dialog in Kamailio for this and the results are
                  just as strange. BLF works for a while and then
                  breaks. In this particular case, the light does not go
                  off after the call.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I have
                  set subs_db_mode to 3 (new config below) and I can
                  consistently reproduce the BLF light not turning off
                  after the call has ended (the phone does not get sent
                  a terminate). As soon as I truncate pua and presentity
                  tables in the DB, the next call works fine.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-family:"Courier New"">modparam("presence",
                  "subs_db_mode", 3)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-family:"Courier New"">modparam("presence",
                  "notifier_processes", 0)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-family:"Courier New"">modparam("presence",
                  "db_url", DBURL)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-family:"Courier New"">modparam("presence",
                  "send_fast_notify", 0)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-family:"Courier New"">modparam("presence",
                  "db_update_period", 20)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-family:"Courier New"">modparam("presence_xml",
                  "db_url", DBURL)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-family:"Courier New"">modparam("presence_xml",
                  "force_active", 1)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-family:"Courier New"">modparam("presence_dialoginfo",
                  "force_single_dialog", 1)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-family:"Courier New"">modparam("presence_dialoginfo",
                  "force_dummy_dialog", 1)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-family:"Courier New"">modparam("pua",
                  "db_url", DBURL)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-family:"Courier New"">modparam("pua",
                  "db_mode", 2)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-family:"Courier New"">modparam("pua",
                  "update_period", 20)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-family:"Courier New"">modparam("pua_dialoginfo",
                  "send_publish_flag", FLT_DLGINFO)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-family:"Courier New"">modparam("pua_dialoginfo",
                  "override_lifetime", 124)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Before I
                  truncate, the tables both a good number of rows in
                  each (70ish).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Is it
                  that they’re not being correctly cleaned up here?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thanks</span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Phil</span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                        style="color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"
                        lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
                      style="color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"
                      lang="EN-US"> sr-users [</span><a
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                        style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-US"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:sr-users-bounces@lists.sip-router.org">mailto:sr-users-bounces@lists.sip-router.org</a></span></a><span
style="color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-US">]
                      <b>On Behalf Of </b>Phil Lavin<br>
                      <b>Sent:</b> 19 January 2016 18:11<br>
                      <b>To:</b> </span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:miconda@gmail.com"><span
                        style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-US">miconda@gmail.com</span></a><span
style="color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-US">;
                      Kamailio (SER) - Users Mailing List
                    </span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                      <b>Subject:</b> Re: [SR-Users] Strange PUA
                      Behaviour</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Below is
                  the relevant presence/pua stuff. Let me know if I
                  should be examining other tables.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">When the
                  call ends, there are no dialogs remaining in the
                  dialog table. A few things do hang around in the
                  presentity and pua tables for a short period of time.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Regarding
                  CLI changing, it does seem to do so. When the call is
                  routed onto the billing platform, the CLI is changed
                  to the local “extension” (e.g. 9989) on the leg that
                  comes back to Kamailio, destined for the callee.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Regarding
                  only advertising the leg going to the callee, not all
                  calls will terminate on a UA registered against
                  Kamailio (e.g. calls from a Kamailio registered UA to
                  the PSTN). The more I think about it, determining the
                  correct leg in all scenarios will be difficult.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <pre>-- <o:p></o:p></pre>
            <pre>Daniel-Constantin Mierla<o:p></o:p></pre>
            <pre><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://twitter.com/#%21/miconda">http://twitter.com/#!/miconda</a> - <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/miconda">http://www.linkedin.com/in/miconda</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
            <pre>Book: SIP Routing With Kamailio - <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.asipto.com">http://www.asipto.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
            <pre><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://miconda.eu">http://miconda.eu</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
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              style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <pre>-- <o:p></o:p></pre>
          <pre>Daniel-Constantin Mierla<o:p></o:p></pre>
          <pre><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://twitter.com/#%21/miconda">http://twitter.com/#!/miconda</a> - <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/miconda">http://www.linkedin.com/in/miconda</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
          <pre>Book: SIP Routing With Kamailio - <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.asipto.com">http://www.asipto.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
          <pre><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://miconda.eu">http://miconda.eu</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
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            style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
            Roman",serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><br>
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            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <pre>-- <o:p></o:p></pre>
        <pre>Daniel-Constantin Mierla<o:p></o:p></pre>
        <pre><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://twitter.com/#%21/miconda">http://twitter.com/#!/miconda</a> - <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/miconda">http://www.linkedin.com/in/miconda</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
        <pre>Book: SIP Routing With Kamailio - <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.asipto.com">http://www.asipto.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
        <pre><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://miconda.eu">http://miconda.eu</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
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    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
Daniel-Constantin Mierla
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://twitter.com/#!/miconda">http://twitter.com/#!/miconda</a> - <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/miconda">http://www.linkedin.com/in/miconda</a>
Book: SIP Routing With Kamailio - <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.asipto.com">http://www.asipto.com</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://miconda.eu">http://miconda.eu</a></pre>
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